This Buyer Claimed The Seller Had No Title To The Car He Was Selling! So I Wonder What The Deal With This One Is?

 

when is it fraud?
wmt57  (37 ) View Listings | Report Feb-20-05 20:38 PST
I was recently high bidder on an MBZ with CLEAR title, low miles and a number of items explicitly described as working. After buying an expensive one way ticket to pick up the vehicle, the seller sends an unknown with an outdated registration (expired by 3 years) and a form filled out by some other unknown 3rd party requesting a "lost" replacement title. None of the paperwork shows the seller's name. The seller offers to try and get the title replaced but the offices are "closed" when we get there. I noticed on the way that the odometer did NOT move therefore miles are totally unknown (pretty obvious), and a couple of the other described items missing or broken. Needless to say I didn't buy it. Within an hour the seller has relisted with a 3 day listing (over a holiday weekend) with Private bidding so buyers can't be warned. My question: Does this constitute fraud?

 

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  Comment   From    Date / Time   Item #
  Negative feedback rating   BUYER WAS A WASTE OF TIME; KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT CARS; STICK TO BUYING $5 ITEMS!
 
  Seller   *rc*aviation* ( 3 )New eBay Member (less than 30 days)    Feb-20-05 18:43   4528300848  
  Reply by wmt57: clr title doesnt mean form for lost from3rd party odo not moving means brkn-LIAR    Feb-20-05 20:13  
  Follow-up by *rc*aviation*: 3RD PARTY? WHAT THE *@#? ODO WORKS! TIRE KICKER, NO MONEY, HAS A FRUITY SON! F--    Feb-21-05 14:22
 Member Profile: *rc*aviation* (3) New eBay Member (less than 30 days)
     
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  Comment   From    Date / Time   Item #
  Negative feedback rating   NO clear title, 3rd party "lost" form, odo not wrking, 74K BOGUS, locks jammed
 
  Buyer   wmt57 ( 37Feedback score is 10 to 49)    Feb-20-05 15:22   4528300848  
  Positive feedback rating   Car as described. Good deal and smooth transaction. A+++++
 
  Buyer   friggyforhire ( 12Feedback score is 10 to 49)    Feb-15-05 17:34   4526303413  
  Reply by *rc*aviation*: Thanks! Enjoy your Infinity M30 Convertible!    Feb-17-05 09:48  
  Negative feedback rating   this guy is a fraud, and a liar him and his sister are thiefs running scams.
 
  Buyer   powerdrought ( 0 )    Feb-13-05 19:06   4526327700  
  Reply by *rc*aviation*: PICKED UP AT AIRPORT; WAS HIGH! ASKED TO "CRASH" AT MY HOUSE. FAKE MONEY ORDERS!    Feb-14-05 15:41

 

Description  
Item Specifics - Automobiles  
  Mercedes-Benz : 300-Series Turbo Diesel  
  1983 MERCEDES BENZ 300D TURBO DIESEL 74K MILES * NO RES  
   
  Miles: 74000     Doors: 4 doors  
  Transmission: Automatic     Interior: Tan  
  Engine: 5 - Cyl.     Year: 1983  
  Warranty: No     VIN Number: WDBAB33A7DB027533
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  Title: Clear     Exterior: Green  
  Condition: Used     Inspection: InspectedInspected  
  Engine: 5 CYLINDERS 3.0 Liters          
       
 
Options
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Standard Equipment:
5 CYLINDERS 3.0 Liters       
 
       
 
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  • 1983 Mercedes-Benz 300-Series Turbo Diesel
    1983 MERCEDES BENZ 300D TURBO DIESEL 74K MILES * NO RES
    74000 Miles
    Exterior Color: Green
    Interior Color: Tan
    VIN: WDBAB33A7DB027533
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    Transmission: Automatic
    Engine: 3.0 L
     


     

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